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Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence

 
Natalie Matthews
Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Natalie Matthews – Tuesday, 2. June 2026, 12:11
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Hi All,

We are upgrading to V20 in a couple of weeks and are looking over the Cert/Program training courses. It appears that the Certifications are vastly different than what we are used to in our current V16.

Can anyone please verify these points:

Do certifications only have a duration of certification and timing of reoccurrence now instead of the many options such as a set year/month or reoccurring from their completion date, etc.?

We have to use 'Learning Paths' now instead of a set screen to choose our recert settings?

Also, what about the settings on our existing certifications if what we have set no longer exists. My mind is going down the rabbit hole on this one. LOL

Trying to wrap our heads around this. Thanks for your help everyone!

Larry Mitipelo
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Larry Mitipelo – Tuesday, 2. June 2026, 17:22
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Kia ora Natalie,

We're currently upgrading to V20.

Happy to have a chat if you'd like about certs & V20 based on our experiences during UAT.

Ngā mihi,

Larry

Jane Warwick
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Jane Warwick – Tuesday, 2. June 2026, 18:32
 

Hi Larry

I'd appreciate being part of any chat - we are just about to start testing and we have a lot of certifications so will be interested to see what you have found.

Thank you

Jane

Larry Mitipelo
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Larry Mitipelo – Wednesday, 3. June 2026, 19:19
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Kia ora Jane,

Happy to chat. I'll send you an email.

Ngā mihi,

Larry

Natalie Matthews
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Natalie Matthews – Wednesday, 3. June 2026, 05:19
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Hi Larry,

I appreciate the reply. If you'd like to connect, we use Microsoft teams and are in EST on the east coast of the USA. Please let me know: nmatthews@lendmarkfinancial.com

Thanks

Larry Mitipelo
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Larry Mitipelo – Wednesday, 3. June 2026, 19:11
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Sorry Natalie, the time difference is too great for us to connect online.

But I'll try and reply with answers to your questions where I can.

Sue Blake
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Sue Blake – Tuesday, 2. June 2026, 23:42
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I would also be interested to find out more on the current certification/program settings when upgrading from V19 to V20.

Especially how much work is required behind the scenes by Site Admin.

Thanks

Sue

Larry Mitipelo
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Larry Mitipelo – Wednesday, 3. June 2026, 19:59
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Kia ora Sue,

We are upgrading from V17 to V20.

In regard to certs, we have not had to do much work in the background.

Most of what we encountered has been in UAT.

  1. The set up to test certs takes time ideally you would have several Learner accounts otherwise it can be become quite confusing working out if the results are being influenced by other certs

  2. We had to work out how to advance cert during UAT so we could test the various scenarios. I'm happy to share how we did this, but a better option, if possible, may be set up short certs. If your UAT length allows this, you can let them run naturally so you can check the outcomes. This would require precise planning as you would need several certs set up to test the various scenarios.

This is what we came across during UAT and to be thorough I'll list ones that were able to be replicated and those that we were not and may have occurred due to how we set them up or other factors.

Issues we encountered during UAT:

  • An extension request didn't work in one instance during UAT, but when our partner did a test, it did work. We're assuming we must have erred in our set up which caused the error

  • we had a course in a hidden category included in a cert and this caused an error message when the learner tried to view the requirements for the cert. While we wanted the error message to be updated to be more concise this was not possible as it is expected behaviour. But obviously you should not include courses in a hidden category in a cert.

  • the same error message appears if a certification has self-enrolment active but is in a hidden category. If a Learner tries to enroll on it, they will get an error message. This has been reported to Tōtara. Error does not appear if the cert is in a visible category.

  • related to the one above was learners being able to see certs in a hidden category. This was not able to be replicated so may have been due to other factors.

Ngā mihi,

Larry

Natalie Matthews
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Natalie Matthews – Wednesday, 3. June 2026, 09:05
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So, after further reviews of the V20 Totara Learn training I see where to set the recert requirements to completion, fixed, expiry. The issue we are having is knowing what we are setting is for which item.

This may take quite a learning curve to get it right. I'm sure it's 2nd nature if you've done it a few dozen times, but at first it is very confusing. V16 seemed clear cut. We will keep trying…



Raye Pritchett-Page
Re: Upgrading to V20 Changes in Certification Reoccurrence
von Raye Pritchett-Page – Thursday, 4. June 2026, 00:59
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Hi Natalie,

Thought I'd jump in here with some Totara insight and links to additional support. Let me answer your questions in order.

Do certifications only have a duration of certification and timing of recurrence now instead of the many options such as a set year/month or recurring from their completion date, etc.?

From V20 the valid period (duration of a certification) is set at each path level and the recertification window length (time allowed to complete a certification) is also set at the path level. These settings used to be on the certification settings page in previous versions at the certification level.

The recertification reference date settings (completion date, expiry date or fixed) are still at the certification level as was in previous versions but now sits on the Requirements tab.

Do we have to use 'Learning Paths' now instead of a set screen to choose our recert settings?

Yes. V20 introduces a new certification model based on Learning paths. Rather than configuring recertification entirely through a dedicated recertification settings screen, administrators now configure certification and recertification behaviour through learning paths and individual pathway settings.

This allows you to create different paths for initial certification and recertification, specify which learning activities need to be repeated, and control what happens when a certification expires, for example deciding which path learners return to.

What happens to our existing certification settings when we upgrade if those settings no longer exist?

Your existing certifications are not removed during the upgrade. Totara automatically migrates existing certification structures and settings into the new pathway model.

When upgrading to Totara 20 (T20/T20.1), all existing certifications are automatically migrated into the new UI: 

  • The original certification path becomes the first path
  • The recertification path becomes the second path
  • The second path loops back to the first for ongoing cycles

Resources

I strongly recommend watching this webinar: One certification, many paths: advanced recertification in Totara 20. The webinar explores Totara 20’s major upgrades to certifications, including multi-year recertification sequences, flexible return points, and support for multiple paths within a single certification. The resource also includes FAQs, which might clarify a few more questions!

Our Help documentation also includes a page of multi-year certification examples, which is well worth a look. It demonstrates how Totara 20's pathway-based approach can be used to manage certification journeys over multiple renewal cycles, including scenarios where learners have different requirements at different stages of recertification.

Of course, these are simply examples of what's possible - you don't need to implement complex multi-year pathways if your existing certification model meets your needs, but it's useful to be aware of the additional flexibility available in V20 should your requirements evolve in the future.

Hope that helps!