Hi,
I have created a Topics format course. In each topic there is a scrom courseware with Multi-scorm units.
I think the course will be completed when a learner have completed all units of the courseware. But in fact it shows the course is completed after the learner just complete one unit of the courseware.
How to make it like I think ?
Screeenshot about it .
The units of this coures are not completed.
But it shows the course is completed.
Hi Jinchao,
Have you investigated the overall course completion criteria as well as the individual activities' completion criteria?
For example in Course completion criteria, 'Overall criteria type aggregation' may be set to 'Any', triggering course completion once any of the scorm activities have been completed. If you change it to 'All' that might help.
Andy
Hi Andy,
Thanks for your reply.
Well，I didn't make myself clear in my question.
As you see in my screenshot the "test" is not a course , it's a activity.
There is a scrom courseware with 2 scorm units in the activity.
Now only one of the units is completed. But the activity is signed completed. It's strange.
How to make the activity be signed completed after 2 units both are completed ?
Hi Amir,
Thanks for your reply.
Well，I didn't make myself clear in my question.
As you see in my screenshot the "test" is not a course , it's a activity.
There is a scrom courseware with 2 scorm units in the activity.
Now only one of the units is completed. But the activity is signed completed. It's strange.
How to make the activity be signed completed after 2 units both are completed ?
Jinchao
Hi Amir,
Thanks for your reply.
The SCORM is built by client. I have not right to separte the 2 activites to 2 different SCORM packages.So is there a way to solve it through totara setting?
Hi Amir,
We have check it out that this situation won't happen when the "test" is scorm format .But when the "test" is Topics format it happens .
I think it may be a bug.
Hi Jinchao,
Are you able to provide a copy of the SCORM package for us to try and test with? You can email it to me directly at simon.coggins@totaralms.com.
Simon
Hi Simon,
I have send the SCORM package to you . But the e-mail is returned .I try many times and all failed.
May I send it to you by MSN? And my MSN ID is yyenergy@hotmail.com.Can you give me yours?
Or other ways you feel appropriate can also be ok.
Jinchao
Hi Simon,
I have upload the SCORM package in our web server.You can download it by
the url below:
http://totara.kineo.cn/demo/Download/Raptivity_trial.zip
Sorry to bring you some trouble.
Jinchao
Hi Jinchao,
I managed to download the zip file but it only seems to contain a single .exe file. I can't get it to upload as it doesn't seem to be a valid scorm package. How would you normally upload this to Totara?
Simon
Hi Simon,
I'm sorry. I have made a mistake.This url must be right:
http://totara.kineo.cn/demo/Download/reduced.zip
Jinchao
Hi,
I've got the scorm file and it installs okay, but I can't seem to get it to complete even the first module. I click through all the lesson links but when I reach the last one it's still not completed.
Could you tell me what I need to do to get the first module to complete?
Simon
Hi Simon,
My totara version is 1.1.8. I just need to click one of lesson links in first module and the first module will be completed.
Is it because the different version?
And I have a screenshot for setting. Maybe it helps.
Sorry,, I logged into your site and it didn't complete for me there either.
I tried in a couple of browsers, but no matter what I did I couldn't get the 1st module to complete.
In terms of what could be wrong, with the settings you have chosen it will complete when the scorm module sends a status of 'complete' so it does seem that maybe the module might need to be modified.
The other thing you could try is to use the Required grade and minimum score options, if the module sets the grade you might be able to choose a value that will require both modules to be viewed to get completion.
Simon
Hi Simon,
Sorry to trouble you again.
I have changed the scorm package which can't be completed in my site.
Now I make sure that it can be completed . And when I just complete the 1st module the activity named "test_sco" is signed completed.
You can login as a learner to see this situation.
I have sent the ID and code to your email.
Thank you for help me .
Jinchao
Hi Jinchao,
Okay, I managed to get the same thing to happen for me on your site. I also logged in as admin with debugging on and this is the data from the SCORM debugging console:
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: Moodle SCORM 1.2 API Loaded, Activity: test_sco, SCO: I_SCO0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSInitialize("", "") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSGetValue("cmi.core.lesson_mode") - normal => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSGetValue("cmi.core.lesson_mode") - normal => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSGetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status") - not attempted => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status", "incomplete") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.exit", "suspend") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status", "incomplete") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:21 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.session_time", "0000:00:00.3") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:22 GMT: Commit("", "") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:22 GMT: LMSCommit("AJAXResult", "true") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:22 GMT: LMSCommit("result", "true") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:22 GMT: LMSCommit("", "") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:22 GMT: LMSGetValue("cmi.suspend_data") - => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:22 GMT: LMSGetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status") - incomplete => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:23 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status", "incomplete") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:24 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.suspend_data", "viewed=1|lastviewedslide=1|0#1##,11,1###-1") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:34 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status", "completed") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:34 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.suspend_data", "viewed=1,2|lastviewedslide=2|1#1##,7,11###-1") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:55 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.session_time", "0000:00:33.83") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:55 GMT: LMSGetValue("cmi.core.lesson_mode") - normal => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:55 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.lesson_status", "completed") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:55 GMT: LMSSetValue("cmi.core.exit", "") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: Commit("", "") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: LMSCommit("AJAXResult", "true") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: LMSCommit("result", "true") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: LMSCommit("", "") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: LMSFinish("AJAXResult", "true") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: LMSFinish("result", "true") => 0
Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:59:56 GMT: LMSFinish("", "") => 0
That shows that the package is sending the lesson_status of completed, which is what the completion tracking uses to determine the state. So unfortunately this will need to be resolved by the SCORM package, there is nothing we can do in Totara if you need to use the status completion option.
As I said before you might also want to try using the grade completion options instead.
Simon
Hi Simon,
I have seen the line you marked.
In my understanding of cmi.core.lesson_status it is just the status of 1st module of the scorm package. If only the 1st module is completed I think the activity should not be signed completed. It is logical that the activity is signed completed after all modules are completed.
But actually it doesn't work as I think.
So is there something to do in Totara of completion tracking uses to determine the state?
Is there no way without resolving it by the SCORM package ?
Thanks.
Jinchao
If there is a more suitable status to use then we can look at changing it, but I'm not sure that SCORM 1.2 passes back an overall completion status for the package as a whole.
The code that uses the lesson status is around line 806 of mod/scorm/lib.php. There does seem to also be a cmi.completion_status value but I'm not sure if it's always set correctly.
I will talk to Dan about this as he is more familiar with the details of SCORM reporting.
Simon
Hi Simon,
Thanks for your help.
We have edit the file mod/scorm/lib.php about lesson status.
The totara version is 1.1.8.
Could you check it out if it is suitable?
The file I have uploaded it as Attachment.
Jinchao
I'm not sure what if($statuses[$track->value] == 4) is supposed to do?
But yes, I think you're on the right lines - count how many 'complete' statuses there are and compare to the total number of scoes.
Does it work for you?
Simon
Hi Simon
The ($statuses[$track->value] == 4) means completed status.
And It works correctly now.
Thanks.
Jinchao